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Subject: "My Crappy Tank"
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Xx007xX
Member since Sep-20-05
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Sep-20-05, 09:50 PM (EDT) |
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"My Crappy Tank"
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Yes folks its true the Tank Urban 50 is really a 72cc instead of a 50cc. Due to the fact that it is a 72cc, it is the cause of the demise of the engine, and it is only four months old. I bought it from www.extreme-scooters.com I dont know much about displacement and such things but the repairman told me that due to the fact that it is too much for the engine to handle, it has fried something in the electronics, which I had repaired two weeks ago and now the whole engine took a major dump on me. When the repairman openned it up he said that it had aftermarket parts installed (incorrectly)in it, and that he doubts that the dealer will replace it under the warrenty. He also informed me that if Tank sends a 72cc engine for the replacement, then he is going to refuse to install it, but I cannot blame him, he is,after all a well reputed Scooter mechanic.
So I dug a little deaper and called a Tank representitave and she admitted that they had a batch of them that came from China that were like that.
I then wrote a sweet little letter to Extreme Scooters explaining my situation, along with a few ideas that I would like them to do for me.
Well we will see what happens, and I will post the results in here as they unfold, good or bad, I want to get the word out on these people. I hope they fix it, but I am going to miss all that power, Heck that thing hauled arse. |
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Jacar Motorsports
Member since May-18-05
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Sep-21-05, 01:47 AM (EDT) |
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1. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
In response to message #0
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Tank is commited to correcting these issues. They mention to me that will replace the engine at owners request. Let us know if we can help.
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Javier Acosta
Verucci West Coast
Jacar Motorsports
www.tankscooters.com
4671 Brooks St. Unit B
Montclair, Ca 91763
909-399-5116 Office
909-399-5117 Fax
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SE
unregistered user
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Sep-21-05, 09:21 AM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
In response to message #1
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I believe that this particular problem is more related to people not knowing how to fix the bike than the bike being junk. I know the urban sprty and the only thing that isnt that great is the swing arm but even that is ok. Just not great. If I had my hands on your bike, I am positive I could fix it quickly. It is much more difficult to find a skilled tech than parts for a TANK. |
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BaronMotorcycles
Member since May-3-05
981 posts |
Sep-21-05, 01:42 PM (EDT) |
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3. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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What a bunch of BS! Electronics are burning because displacement is too high? You should find a new mechanic! These engines are built as 72 cc from the start, so any claim that the engine died because of too much power is ludicrous! |
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Xx007xX
unregistered user
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Sep-21-05, 06:11 PM (EDT) |
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4. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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Hey- I never said that I was a scooter mechanic, in fact I dont know a damn thing about them. I was refered to this mechanic because hes the best around. He said that it was a part called a 70cc Avenger Kit that was installed, and it was installed improperly, the bolts were crossthreaded, and whoever assembled the bike just kept going with the bolts and just cranked them all the way down reguardless of them crossthreading. Now THAT is what I call shoddy craftsmanship, wethor or not you think that the Tank scooter is the best Scooter in the world, after personal experience I think that they are pieces of crap. I am a Union pipefitter and if I did work half that shoddy, then I would be fired on the spot, without the possibility for rehire. Ya they are going to replace the engine, but I STILL have to pay for removal and installation AND shipping, and the earlier electrical problem. I didn't mean that the displacemant difference was the main cause, but from the way the mechanic explained it to me he said that the aftermarket part was a direct result of the electrical failure in the first place. I dont know much about electronics and scooters, but I DO know that there IS some legitimate and valid reason why it has something to do with the electronics. My mechanic is the kind of guy who takes pride in what he does and he would lay his reputation down on his diagnosis of the problem with the scooter..........007 |
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JanniCash
Member since Sep-13-05
557 posts |
Sep-21-05, 07:56 PM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
In response to message #4
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Just make sure that the guy checks the piston pullback spring, or you will have the same electrical problem in no time again.
Jan
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BaronMotorcycles
Member since May-3-05
981 posts |
Sep-22-05, 08:06 PM (EDT) |
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6. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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Tank is my competition, so for me to say that I think they're the best in the world... I think not. You also never mentioned anything about cross-threaded bolts in your first post. You said that electrical system had problems and engine burned out because of displacement. That is ridiculous. These bikes don't have "kits" installed in them. They're built that way from the factory. If assembled properly, they're perfectly good bikes... just illegal. It looks like the "best" mechanic doesn't have much experience with Chinese bikes. It also looks like the engine was assembled on a Friday afternoon before a Holiday. |
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Xx007xX
unregistered user
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Sep-22-05, 11:11 PM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
In response to message #6
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Well I looked around the shop and I noticed that all they sold were Chinese bikes. Many folks around here highly reccommended him. Some of the things I said in my posts were probably misunderstood by me, so I pretty much repeated what I thought he was trying to tell me. Like I DID say before-I AM IN NO WAY A SCOOTER MECHANIC!!!!!you are most likely right about the fact that it was assembled on a Friday. When I figured out just what exactly happenned, then I will post the correction. And Yes these folks at Extreme Scooters want me to send in the engine and they will replace it with a new one...............007 |
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Hawaii
unregistered user
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Sep-24-05, 02:25 PM (EDT) |
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8. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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I understand you are not a scooter mechanic, which is why you did the right thing seeking advice from someone that knows more than you. However, I must say, if the mechanic said what you relayed to us, then he is a moron and you need to find a better person to help with your bike. I highly doubt your whole engine took a dump on you as long as you weren't running without oil or doing something silly. Perhaps you got the one lemon out of the batch. But I had a sport 50 for a little while last year before buying a real scooter, and it is a great scooter and I never had a problem with it putting 800 miles on it a month. You should all be happy that these scooters go 45-50mph (on a flat, that is). When you get a true 50cc 4stroke scooter you will be crying for the old one as you pull 30mph on a flat. |
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BlueCat138
Member since Dec-5-04
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Sep-27-05, 10:15 AM (EDT) |
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9. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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Well, I am a mechanic and work on a ton of chinese "stuff". And YES they will just take a crap on people. The part's on some of the scoots are just so porly cast, and part's made of plastic. I'm sure that wrench knows what he's talking about. BlueCat Garage |
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mmouse1
unregistered user
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Nov-01-05, 10:53 AM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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Well BlueCat, I am a Honda mechanic and they are cast the same way. You can't in truth say that about on product. Be fair, all import motors can be crap while mass produced. They are all (casted) poorly. While it is highly unlikley the motor just took a dump, it can happen by component failure. All motors are subject to this. |
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bluecat138
unregistered user
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Nov-01-05, 03:12 PM (EDT) |
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11. "RE: My Crappy Tank"
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Well being a honda Mechanic you wouldent be working on much chinese scoots would you? I do.And yes they will just take a dump.Not as offten as people would like to believe.And talk about compponent failure,say such as oil pump-DUMP! super crapy oil seals-DUMP!!-the list goes on.
Don't get me started.. How often will a phillips head screw strip out on a honda? The kick start lever will strip with one good hard kick.
come on dude-work on 25 of these thing a month and you'll know what i'm talking about
untill then....... |
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