I'm a libertarian, and frankly I have just had it with the media. I do believe that for the most part the media is slanted slightly to the left (drastically to the left in cases like NPR) but then someone like fox news comes along and says they are "fair and balanced"....what a lie. They are just slanted the other way. It's just about impossible to get any kind of news or anything else that doesn't have some kind of slant on it.

I was interested in seeing bowling for columbine because I thought it seemed like a cool idea for a documentary, but it just seemed more like a two hour long rant that went all over the place and was just horribly slanted. I turned it off when they were talking about the 6 year old girl who got shot in school, and they said the reason was because dick clark "forced" this lady to work (making fudge for rich people) for her food stamps. total bullshit.

Most of what passes for "news" isn't anyway. How many hours do the "news" shows have to spend on what we don't know about the Michael Jackson case? It's really current events based entertainment, not news. Or maybe tabloidism?

Anyone have a journal or paper they read that seems to be truly "fair & balanced?" If you alread replied to this question in my later post, please disregard.

Actually, you missed the larger picture after turning it off. The point made was that it's not the availability of the guns, or even our "violent" history, but rather the absolute absurdity of the news media and 'fear' that is pumped into our everyday lives by that all knowing box we dedicate more to than our families.

Actually, Kirk, he was saying just what you are...perhaps less eloquently and in all kinds of directions, but there really was a good point to the movie.

-L

ive been wanting to see it for a while now so im glad it is finally being shown. im quite certain though that the film aside from being very intersting, will just highlight one of the problems in one part of the world. - how many kalashnikovs etc, are there in the middle east for example?

i live in a virtually gun free culture over here - especially cos i am kinda in a small city in the countryside too.

from my point of view, there only seems to be a gun culture if you live in larger city (although i know there are silly little muppets trying to be "cool" with them here), but even still we all know that gun crime is on the way up. however from what i have seen over in the usa, we are still a long way behind you guys.

it doesnt help here that its mostly rap bands, who are picking up on, and glorifying owning guns. They are constantly being busted by the law for having them loaded in their bling-bling cars. but it doesnt portray a good example cos they are in the media alot through their music.

i await the movie!

sorry, i had to rant for a minute there.

I went to pick up a WW2 german rifle from a guy in the next town over. Small town, petty crimes. HOLY SHIT did that guy have some crazy stuff. A couple rocket launchers, tons of automatic weapons....almost anything you can think of. All you need is the right license. I'm friends with his business partner who has a large collection himself and he has taken me out to the range a few times to try out all his toys. The sten is a fun one, although it's quite a crude design.

I watched the movie as of recent and I think it's way too long. You could have fit all that in a half hour special. There were some good points made but I just about fell asleep. The US has a lot of problems and there really is no one answer to solve it. The guns themselves are not the problem as Canada can prove, although removing them is the easiest answer. If you ban all guns, then the only people who will own them are cops and criminals.....talk about being fucked.

frank

If you watched the film to the end you will know that your assesement that Canada has a same problem is very wrong.

Banning guns works, in Britain, even cops don't carry guns.

So, banning guns here in the US will never work.

SCOTT
not a gun owner.

SCOTT

"The guns themselves are not the problem as Canada can prove"

frank

Couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, since Britain banned guns their violent crime rate (with use of guns) has done nothing but rise.
Banning guns (or anything for that matter) does nothing but create a black market that's unregulated and untaxed.

Yvette
Imperial SC
"Violent Yet Prissy."

its true our everyday police dont use guns, but cos of the rising levels of gun related crime, they are heading more towards carrying weapons.
they have to wear stab vests now, and i can see that before long guns will be the norm for them.

i remember going to ibiza a few years ago for a drinking holiday, and crapping bricks when i was approached by a copper with a gun. heh.
they aint afraid to use em over there!

It sure would be better for NRA's cause to use the Canada argument rather than the old stupid: "cars kill people too"

For the last time:

Cars are designed for driving
Guns are designed for killing

BIG difference.....

I don't even know who Michael Moore is....well, I guess I do now. I am admitedly much more right wing since I have gotten married, had kids and moved to the burbs...but I still try to keep an open mind about everything, and I was really hoping to see a good documentary, and like I said, this was almost nothing but - well, for lack of a better word propoganda. Total bullshit that kept on going all over the place, from welfare to the gulf war, to racism, to gun control etc etc. It was just a rant.

For the record I LOVE guns, but don't have any now because I have two little girls, and I had a kind of scary gun experience not too long ago. I think there are too many guns out there, and that there are too many idiots that have them. I hate republicans and I hate democrats even more. I am a libertarian - I want the government out of my fucking life altogether.

I'm getting pretty far off topic here. I should just say that I was severly disapointed...I was expecting a DOCUMENTARY on gun control and instead I got one person's rant on everything they think is wrong with everything. He has the right to do that all he likes and produce that, and shit, I'd probably watch it anyways. I just wish that someone could have at least refrained from calling this a "documentary".

Watching elephants fuck on the discovery channel....now THATS a documentary!
Buzz Bomb Scooters
kirk@buzzbombscooters.com

http://mknx.com/v/cowbell.wmv

Enjoy,
John M. Stafford

Buzz Bomb Scooters
kirk@buzzbombscooters.com

Not nitpicking here, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh either because I think he's a dick. You have every right not to watch Michael Moore's film...

Everything you see is bias in some way. Documentaries are offically a FACTUAL film genre but there are no rules. It's called artistic license. It's someone's (elses) reality...

sheesh...

scott

"I forgave my enemies,
but I never forgot their names" DBL

scott

"I forgave my enemies,
but I never forgot their names" DBL

Small difference: in Carlsbad or Oceanside no one is likely to drag you off to disappear like in many of the old communist regimes when you were a detractor.

Here the only reason media people "hold back" is fear of lawsuits, not reprisal.

Which communist regime did you live under?

I grew up in former Yugoslavia. Not as hard core as Eastern Block countries.